What do you think about Tom Brady? Do you agree he is the best quarterback of all time? Would you go as far to say he is the best overall player of all time? How can you compare different positions for all time greatness? What makes him the "GOAT"?
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I think Tom Brady is the best quarterback of our time and defiantly will be remembered for many years to come. I wouldn't say he's the GOAT. Just because he's quarterback and has led his team to win 5 super bowls doesn't mean that he's the greatest of all time.There are many players it takes to make a good team. Brady is on a great team which helps to make him shine. No one person is the greatest of all time.You could be a great player and be on a team thats terrible and that will make you look bad. The same could happen the other way, which will help you look better. It takes a good team to make it and win. While Brady defiantly has made a name for himself, it takes a good team to be able to win especially the Super Bowl.
ReplyDeleteI think Tom Brady is the best quarterback of all time based on his accomplishments. This year he was suspended for four games and still was in the running of MVP. Tom has reached the super bowl 7 times something nobody has ever done, and won it 5 times. No quarterback has won the super bowl 5 times ever. He's played a long time. He's just wrapped up his 17th season. In those 17 years, he's won 14 division championships, 11 AFC championship games, and 5 super bowls. The greatest quarterback played the greatest Super Bowl game and put together the greatest comeback and finish. There was already talks about Brady being the best quarterback of all time before the super bowl While earning his record-setting fourth Super Bowl MVP, Brady passed for a Super Bowl-record 466 yards. But obviously, the story is the epic comeback Brady authored. Atlanta took a 28-3 lead with 8:31 remaining in the third quarter, and atlanta was dumb enough to give brady the ball back in crunch time. Brady has the third most wins for starting quarterbacks ever. He is 3 behind Peyton manning but he will break the record this year. He is the most dominant player in all of football and his longevity is extraordinary. He is putting together mvp caliber seasons after the age of 38. I would think Brady has a couple more years in him, and those few years will only make his case greater for being the greatest of all time. You can compare different positions by the impact they had on the team. The patriots would have not won 5 superbowls with a sub par qb. Jerry rice i think comes right behind Brady because of what he has done the for his organization. Brady has done so much for his organization, and he has been doing it for such a long time. He is the greatest quarterback of all time, and the greatest player of all time in my mind.
ReplyDeleteTom Brady is 100% the best QB of all time. However it goes way further than the play on the field. It's about the personality and the story behind all the greatness you see on the field. He went into Michigan not knowing if he would ever have a starting position because they kept bringing in new recruits. He finally got his chance and succeeded with it. Although he never got his fame. He then declared for the draft and went to the combine. He didn't show anything special and was drafted in the 6th round. He worked hard so that when it was his time to shine, he could shine. After bledsoe got hurt, the rest is history. Now we see a man who has led 5 teams to a super bowl ring. He has done it without big name wide receivers, and he has done it with them. He makes whatever he is given work. The biggest reason he is the best ever is because he won the super bowl this season after receiving a 4 game suspension for something that wasn't even accurately investigated.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I am not a fan of Tom Brady and his ego, I believe he can be considered one of the best of all time. His 4 Super Bowl rings, 3 Super Bowl MVP's, and overall success is hard to look past. To address the first issue, I think he's the best QB of all time. He's been to the Super Bowl 6 times and has won 4 of them. In my book, Super Bowl's are what matter most. Of course, one can make the argument of team strength, but that is very controversial. The fact that he has 4 rings is unequivocal. It's reasonable to assume that the Patriots wouldn't have been there without him. Joe Montana and others can also be argued as the best QB of all time, but Tom Brady has more rings. The NFL isn't like the NBA where you only need a couple star players. You need a full squad, and that's what Tom Brady successfully took to the Super Bowl 6 times. The term "GOAT" is a complex label to put on any player. There are way too many factors to be able to put that label on someone. However, because of his accomplishments that I mentioned earlier, I would unquestionably put him in the argument as the best ever. You can compare different positions for the GOAT by considering statistics, championships and ability, but there are just so many players that are unique in their own way. Thus, I can't say who's the greatest of all time, and don't think it's plausible to do so.
ReplyDeleteI have never been much of a Patriots fan, but out of respect, I have to give Tom Brady the credit he deserves. With 5 Superbowl wins and 11 total Superbowl records, it is clear that Brady is the GOAT. In addition, he set 8 of his 11 records in Superbowl LI, further proving Brady has plenty of life left in him. However, Jets wide receiver Brandon Marshall brings up an interesting point; the best quarterback is not necessarily the best player. However amazing Brady is at his specialized position of quarterback, he would miserably fail at any other position. So the question comes down to how you interpret it; does being the best at one position make you the best overall player as well? My opinion is no. Players like Tom Brady and Jerry Rice deserve to be crowned kings of their respective positions, but what makes a player the best overall is their ability to play multiple positions better than the rest. As Marshall pointed out, JJ Watt could play four or five positions and still succeed. In my opinion, versatility like that is what makes the greatest overall players. In sum, Brady has clearly succeeded more than anyone could anticipate, and deserves the title of greatest quarterback. However, his lack of versatility excludes him from the running for greatest overall player.
ReplyDeleteBeing a Patriots fan my response will be quite biased, I thoroughly believe Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. Although I would not consider him the best overall player due to his lack of mobility and strength, but he is a definite pick for his position. Leading the Patriots back from a 25 point deficit in Super Bowl 51, he proved his skills and leadership capabilities. Brady also rightfully claimed his fourth Super Bowl MVP award after the win. Some argue that Brady does not deserve the title after “Deflategate” and numerous other alleged scandals. The scandals do not define him as a player, rather his skills and determination to be the best.
ReplyDeleteI think that Tom Brady is the best quarterback of all time. Tom Brady has won 5 Superbowls and has been MVP for 4 of them. He led his team to 7 Superbowls. This means that he is able to read the game more than any other quarterback. He was able to lead his team this year behind 25 points with less than a half in the game. The fact that he had been suspended the first four games of the season and was still an MVP contender for the season when the rest of his competition played the whole season shows how much better he is than the rest. He might not be the most athletic guy in the NFL which was why he was chosen 199 in the 2000 draft. But being a really slow runner isn't a necessity when playing quarterback. When we are talking about the greatest player of all time, I would agree with Marshall about being able to play multiple positions. But I also think you need other qualities that Tom Brady does have. I think that the greatest player of all time should be able to win a game against a time no matter what the circumstances are. Tom Brady has played with a myriad of receivers. Most of them were nobodies and Tom Brady turned them into great players. So in my opinion, Tom Brady should be considered one of the greatest players of all time.
ReplyDeleteTom Brady is without a doubt the greatest quarterback of all time. I don't think that he is at all in the discussion of greatest athlete of all time across all sports. However, I think he is very much in the discussion for the GOAT of the NFL. Although people may argue that Brady had the greatest coach of all time and that some of his Superbowls came when he had some of the best receivers, it is also clear that he won several of his rings with very average receivers. Tom Brady is the sort of player that doesn't just play well himself but he also makes all the players around him a lot better. A lot of the receivers on his team this year were no name players. Take James White. He set a Superbowl record for receptions in a game this year and is a running back. Tom Brady won the Superbowl without a single star receiver playing on his side of the ball. Finally Tom Brady has a truly amazing story. He was a third string quarterback at points in his career at Michigan and was drafted in the 6th round of the draft. However, despite all this he still marched on to be the greatest quarterback of all time. That has to say something about his character and competitiveness. His demeanor with his stats put him in a category of his own. While I think it is hard to compare positions when naming a player the greatest of all time, I think that Tom Brady would still have to be one of the frontrunners for GOAT of the NFL
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that comes to mind when I think of Tom Brady is he will never the best of all time and will never get to that position in his football career. I think that he is in the top 3 quarterbacks of all time and top 3 players. His accomplishments are truly unbelievable, I can't take that away from him. I don't think that there is a "best player" to ever play the game of football. I don't think there is a way to compare a kicker to a quarterback or a offensive lineman to a safety. I think that if a team does well, the fame and accomplishments go to the quarterback. I wouldn't say anybody is the "GOAT" at any position in sports. It is different playing now then 50 years ago and its going to be different playing in another 50 years. I do think that Tom Brady is the greatest player of this era even know I hate to say that. He has proven himself on the biggest stage in sports now multiple times and shows he has it all. But I would not call him the best of all time and now I believe that everyone one must respect him a little even if you despise him in every way.
ReplyDeleteI think Tom Brady should be considered one of the greatest quarter backs of all time. He is a player who has accomplish tremendous goals that not many have been able to reach. His hard work is what has brought him to that level and he should deserve the credit for that. I think for any sport what is actually considered the one and only GOAT is all based on opinion because there are so many different factors to different players that would put them into considerations for being the greatest of all time.
ReplyDeleteI am not a Patriots fan at all, however it is very hard to doubt Tom Brady being the best quarterback of all time. With his recent 5th super bowl ring and his countless amount of accolades, in my eyes he solidifies being known as the greatest of all time. He started this season with a four game suspension because of "deflate gate", yet he managed to win the super bowl and that's almost unheard of. Disregarding his years of accomplishments and wins and Super bowls, just this season proved the type of player he is showing resilience and his ability to lead a team out of a bad start. This and many other factors proves why he is the best ever.
ReplyDeleteTom Brady is one of the most polarizing figures in sports for one reason: he wins. Sports are fascinating because people don't root for the best; instead, they root for David to defeat Goliath. In the case of Brady, he and the hated New England Patriots are Goliath—and more often than not, they are the ones hoisting the Lombardi trophy each February. Personally, I don't love Tom Brady. But I'm a microcosm for every sports fan in America that isn't wearing red, white, and navy blue. No one wants to see the Patriots win again and again, just like no one outside of Northern California is rooting for the Golden State Warriors to win the NBA title. The fact is, Brady receives scrutiny and abuse because he is the one riding into the sunset with confetti raining down on him and his Super Bowl MVP trophy. The allegations of cheating matter because of his success; if the Cleveland Browns were the victims of Deflategate, it would be a thimble-sized story in comparison to New England's scandal. In terms of Brady's legacy, it is challenging to compare him to a different era. I don't feel I have the authority to assert that Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback or player of all time, because I never saw Bart Starr, Dick Butkus, or Joe Montana play. It's impossible to compare and contrast players that played football long before a member of the New England Patriots stepped onto a gridiron for the first time. Nonetheless, the debate will wage on, because just as people root for an underdog, sports fans have one great obsession—legacies. It's the same fixation that devalues the careers of players without a ring, and it's the same reason why LeBron James went to Miami and Kevin Durant picked up and moved West to Oakland. The players we root for are defined by the titles they hold, not individual records or awards. And Tom Brady has certainly left his mark, with five Super Bowl victories and four MVP awards in those games. Is he the greatest quarterback of all time? Is he the best player in history? These are useless questions. Instead, we should simply sit back and respect Tom Brady—and of course, root against him.
ReplyDeleteI think that people can argue that Tom Brady is a contender to be the G.O.A.T., but the G.O.A.T. of only quarterbacks. Tom Brady every year has access to amazing wide receivers, amazing running backs, and amazing defense that has allowed him to be in this position. It is unfair to compare him to previous quarterbacks like Joe Montana because the game has revolutionized since then. Players now have access to personal trainers, special weight rooms, more film analysis that allow them to analyze the game in different ways than before, and the coaching staff has improved over the years. I do have lots of respect for Tom Brady in the fact that he was a 6th round pick, was thought to be a nobody and turned out to be this successful. I also think that he has the characteristics of a greatest quarterback of all time by not giving up on his team when he was suspended at the beginning of this year and was determined to win the Super Bowl this year. Tom Brady has also played in the NFL for 17 years and should be going to the Super Bowl more times if he was the greatest of all time, and not loosing two superbowls. Also, some of his Super Bowl records cannot be comparable to previous quarterbacks: the first win in overtime or the biggest comeback. I also have huge respect for Brady by coming back in the last Super Bowl and never giving up. I would say that he is one of the best quarterbacks, but not best of all time. I would agree with Brandon Marshall that the best to ever play the game should not only be a quarterback, but should have the ability to play multiple positions like Jabril Peppers and can be a threat on both sides of the field. Michael Jordan was not the greatest of all time for his shooting, but he also had great defense that allowed him to be an all around player.
ReplyDeleteTom Brady is an amazing athlete. He is definitely one of the greatest or the greatest quarter backs of all time. I wouldn't classify him as the greatest player of all time but he is one of the greatest players. He has won many super bowls which makes one the greatest. Tom being on the Patriots also gives him the benefit of great teammates to back him up. With these teammates Brady is able to show is his true potential which makes him one of the greatest.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree with the fact that Tom Brady is definitely the best quarterback of all time, I wouldn't go as far as to say that he is the best player of all time. As the article says, the best player would have to have a more diverse set of skills, however, it is obvious that he is the best quarterback on the basis of wins. Having won the Super Bowl so many times, it is hard to deny his worth as a player. As a player, their hasn't been anyone who has been able to achieve what he has achieved and so for that reason he is the GOAT.
ReplyDeleteAt this point in time in NFL history, I agree that Tom Brady is the most decorated and greatest Quarter Back of all time. In 2000, Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round as the 199th pick. Throughout his successful career he has been able to collect 5 Super Bowl championships of the 7 chances he has had. He has been named league MVP twice and Super Bowl MVP 4 times. There is no doubt that Brady is the best Quarter Back of all time at this point in time. He is a true leader on and off the field. He is 39 years old and has all the money in the world but he is still one of the most competitive and hungry players in the NFL. Depending on how much longer he is in the league for, I can see a couple more Super Bowl wins for the Patriots. But I agree that the lead is transforming. Athletes are getting bigger and stronger and more athletic. Youth training is much more developed now than it was before. Brady is the best as of all time to this point. But the league is changing and players are getting better and better.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I hate football and couldn't care less about it. What do I think of Tom Brady? Well I don't, but if I had to think about him I'd say I'm tired of hearing his name. He has been in the papers constantly for years because of a couple of deflated balls...oh and for winning a lot. I would not say Brady is the best of all time, but I think that he is ONE of the best quarterbacks. He has brought his team to 5 championships (Some of those he may have cheated). You have to give him credit for everything that he has accomplished in his career. You also have to remember that just like other sports, the game is constantly changing. People didn't play football the way they do now and the game will be different 30 years from now. You have to think about how a player would fit on a team 40 or 50 years ago and how would they fit into their game. These questions will never really get answered. I also think you can't really say he's the best player because there are so many different positions with so many different roles. How would Brady really be if he was playing defense? Wide Receiver? You just can't say he's the GOAT, because there are too many factors. Tom Brady is not the greatest football player of all time. Greatest quarterback of all time? I guess we'll never know.
ReplyDeleteTom Brady is the best quarterback of all time. He has won 5 Super Bowls and gotten 4 Super Bowl MVPS. He also has 11 records inside of the Super Bowl which proves he doesn't choke. For example, in the past Super Bowl, Brady wasn't playing well in the first 3 quarters and it showed on the team and on the scoreboard. After the fourth quarter started and he started to heat up they got 31 unanswered points leading the team to the biggest comeback in Super Bowl history. This proves that he is the GOAT of quarterbacks. You can't compare different positions for the best ever because each position has a different job and you can't compare someone's effectiveness in different tasks.
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ReplyDeleteTom Brady is undoubtedly one of the best quarterbacks of all time, but I hesitate to call him the greatest. For one, he hasn't won all of the Super Bowls he's been in. In both 2008 and 2012, the Pats were gloriously defeated by the New York Giants in two of the greatest Super Bowl upsets of all time. This is unlike other QBs like Joe Montana, who went 4-0 in Super Bowl appearances. Then there are the scandals. No other QB has been accused of playing dirty. Brady and the Pats have been accused of deflating balls, spying on other teams etc. Whether or not these accusations are due to the fact that Tom Brady has been an absolute superstar for such a long time remains to be seen. Without a doubt, the Patriots have had one of the greatest dynasties in sports history, and Tom Brady has been the heart and soul of said dynasty. Participating in 7 Super Bowls regardless of outcome, is a feat that no team had ever accomplished previously. Brady's performance in Super Bowl 51, undoubtedly one of the greatest comebacks in sports history, cements Brady's legacy as one of the greatest of all time. However, records are made to be broken. There will more than likely be a QB that matches, and possibly breaks Brady's league records as well as Super Bowl wins and appearances. Brady is clearly a HOFer and one of the best of all time, but calling him the GOAT is a bit premature at this moment in time.
ReplyDeleteFor the past 10 years of my life since I started watching football, I have hated Tom Brady. I always found him to be arrogant and overrated, along with the fans who supported him. However, this past season has completely changed my view of him as a player. At the age of 39 years old, he came out and had one of the best seasons of his career, throwing for 28 touchdowns and only 2 interceptions. In addition to the amazing regular season statistics and record, he then proceeds to go into the postseason continuing his hot streak and leads the team to his 7th Super Bowl appearance. That alone, was enough to convince me to put Tom Brady at least in the conversation for the greatest quarterback of all time, and he then goes on win that Super Bowl. Not only did he win the Super Bowl, he led the Patriots to the greatest comeback of all time, throwing for 466 yards. With 7 Super Bowl appearances, 5 victories, and Super Bowls MVP's, I have to say that Tom Brady is unequivocally the greatest quarterback of all time.
ReplyDeleteIn addition to being the greatest quarterback of all time, I believe that it is safe to say that Tom Brady is also the greatest football player of all time. While normally I feel it is impossible to compare players between positions, this is completely different. Brady's combination of regular season, postseason, and Super Bowl success catapults him over any player at any other position. The biggest factor in determining the greatest player of all time is Super Bowls. Brady has 5 for the same team, being the best player on his team every time, and winning super bowl MVP 4 of those times. Any way you try to analyze this debate, Tom Brady will always come out on top. He is the GOAT.
Brandon Marshall makes some great points regarding Tom Brady's status as (or not as) the GOAT. Although he plays quarterback, the most important position, that does not make him the greatest player of all time. Granted, he has compiled some of the most impressive stats of all time, but there are many aspects of those stats to look at. First, Brady played in a system that has benefited him with the greatest coach of all time for his entire career, a benefit that no other player in football has ever been able to say. Brady fits the system perfectly, but we have never seen how he would play under a different head coach or in a different system. His tools are not as strong as other quarterbacks: Marino had a stronger arm and better accurate, while Aaron Rodgers is more mobile. Although Marino never won anything, he can be considered the most talented quarterback of all time, and his teams were always terrible around him with numerous coaching changes. Brady has had the luxury of always having amazing teams around him, with great offensive lines, top-5 defenses, and lethal weapons such as Gronkowski, Randy Moss, and Wes Welker. Many other players have not had this luxury.
ReplyDeleteWith quarterback being the most important position in football, it's essential for them to be able to control the game. However, other players such as Lawrence Taylor or Jim Brown, who played less significant positions but still dominated every game, seem more impressive to me. Even though they weren't snapping the ball every play, Taylor and Brown controlled how each play was executed and could change the momentum of any game at any moment.
Finally, football is a sport that has evolved significantly, looking very different now than it did even 15 years ago. While 60 home runs was just as impressive in 1927 as it is now, or 100 points being considered as unattainable now as it did in 1962, football stats are increasingly growing as the sport becomes offensively and pass-focused. The NFL's rules change slightly every year as the game evolves, so it's not fair to compare players like Joe Montana or John Elway to Brady, since they played the same position during an era when it was played much differently. To fairly evaluate football players, they must be evaluated within their own eras. Tom Brady is the most accomplished player of our football generation, but it's unfair for many reasons to consider him the greatest football player of all time.
I do believe that Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. He has continued to cement his legacy and status as his career draws to a close, winning two more Super Bowl while not letting his level of play drop even the slightest bit. His 5 Super Bowls and 4 Super Bowl MVPs speak for themselves, but anyone who has been following football during his career will know just how much attention he draws at all times, and how big of a figure he is for the sport. Whether the attention is positive or negative, his personality demands it year round and is a part of one of the greatest sports dynasties in history. I think that there could be a debate made for many different players, but after his most recent Super Bowl comeback he -at least in my mind- solidified himself as the greatest player of all time, and has been so lucky to be coached by possibly the greatest coach of all time as well.
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